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Interesting post. I often wonder if the EU sees China as its model, with a narrow range of internal political views giving a degree of flexibility to an otherwise inflexible system.

No doubt we'll see over the next decade or so, but I'm sure many senior EU bureaucrats envy the Chinese way of doing things.

Note that Thailand has a king.....

I doubt China succeeds because her politicos have some kind of intellectual genius or their system is especially good. May I suggest China starts from a different place - a governmental 'clean sheet' (more or less). No whining about scrapping a few bits of inconvenient legislation; instead scrap the bl**dy lot and destroy utterly the old guard and vested interests. Tough but it seems to have worked. Parts of it badly managed, but omlettes/eggs. Would it have worked without? probably not. Now imagine if you will Cameron and Clegg lugging huge bins of excrement on their backs to far flung fields from 5am till 10pm.......

Either by design or default, we HAVE a "one party state", and they are all "shades of red".

They all give lip service to being "a BIT different to "the others"", but where ARE the differences in practice?

The "Government" here call themselves "Centerist conservative" or some such crap. But whilst they are run by some Ossi, ex FDJ Tussi, rip our services apart and starve them of cash, whilst pushing my taxes, in the form of "Green taxes", amonst others, through the fucking roof, so they can pay the bastard Greeks to live in the style they would like to become accustomed, (What's the Greek for "Plasma screen, bookies, jogging trousers, Staffy, and white lightning cider?) then they are in my eyes no better than the commy scum in China, or Cuba.

The British government is "of the centre" , regardless of the party or coalition which achieves power because most of what it does is dictated by the EU whose policies are somehow regarded as "centrist" although they are, in fact, extremely dictatorial - but in a concealed way. If every judge, policeman, civil servant, council official or quangocrat enforcing EU law and policy was forced to wear a dark blue armband with that ring of stars, we would soon realise who our real rulers are. The Palace of Westminster is a bit like a pub with three beer pumps with different labels and different advertising for the beer - but only one barrel in the cellar. Unfortunately it's not gunpowder.

Perhaps Northern Ireland represents the next stage of development.The parties are legally compelled to be in coalition government, regardless of the outcome of elections. So there will be a slight re-shuffling of ministerial portfolios according to votes cast - but that is all.

Of course, the Northern Ireland Assembly was set up as a very expensive job creation programme to keep some very bad boys off the streets. The pickings are lavish with fortunes to be made at the top by people who can double and treble as MEPs, MLAs and Westminster MPs with salaries and pers pro rata. Then there is a luscious growth of well-remunerated quangos - Northern Ireland, Cross Border, EU, jointly with the devolved Edinburgh and Cardiff administrations ad infinitem. It is politician heaven and almost impossible to lose all your jobs at once, regardless of the vote.

China's public sector fell below 40% of GDP back in 2009. Britain's public sector rose above 45% of GDP in 2010.

Arthur Scargill described Socialism as "the state ownership of the means of production and distribution".

In that case, Britain is more Socialist than Communist China.

SoD

I think David Duff is more social minded in cutting the grass in the cemetery than China is socialist. China is just a bigger N.Korea.

Shrewd thinking, AK, better watch out the Commissars are coming!

'Obli', yes, thanks, I had forgotten that.

Roger, I will treasure the image contained in your final sentence!

FT, the irony is that your anger, of course, is shared by those on the doctrinaire Left who use almost the same sort of language. The problem is this: if you alter the rules to make rule by a hard Right party easier you also make it easier for the hard Left. Modern democracy appears to favour the stody middle-ground which is infuriating but not too dangerous.

As Edward Spalton spells out with considerable veracity, it is teh creeping kind of dictatorship, exemplified by the European Commission, which we need to watch like a hawk - oer perhaps, like a mouse facing a hawk, might be a better image!

Thanks, 'SoD', brief and exact as always.

Now there you are very definitely wrong, Jimmy. China is absolutely nothing like North Korea. Treat youself to Cheng's book. I'm not saying China isn't going to be a problem but it very definitely isn't another North Korea.

Thank you all for your comments.

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