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Monday, 05 June 2017

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David, you seem extra crotchety the last few days. Was the paint dry when you moved back into the house or have you been breathing fumes? It is outrageous everyone doesn't hate liberals, but why aren't you more worried about your own Ms May, who wants to curtail freedoms of speech and increase government control over the internet?

Bob, I don't hate 'liberals' and I certainly don't hate Mrs. Giffords. It's just that, like Mr. Straker, I cannot think of a single reason why the lady should be honoured in this way given the length of the queue of people who deserve, and have earned, the right to precede her.

And don't get me started on Mrs. May or I really will get mega-crotchety!

Well at the risk of seeming ungallant it's a pretty ugly old boat, so perhaps not entirely inappropriate.

Bob - I don't hate libtards either, just socialism.

I am not much of a practising christian but "love the sinner hate the sin" is not a bad motto.

Well it is an LCS so "unarmed" and "ineffective" are the politest terms you can use for this floating monstrosity. Within the same time that over 30 "Perry" class were built, the Septics have managed four, all of which have had major issues over propulsion, weaponry and sensors. Perhaps naming this one after a liberal like her is a backhanded comment upon the whole LCS debacle.

David, Straker's argument is spurious. Navy ships are named after states, cities (including Chicago), and one is named "Chinook" after either Native Americans or a sled dog. Giffords didn't necessarily displace a deserving military person:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_current_ships_of_the_United_States_Navy

If Straker's bitching isn't from a personal hatred or resentment for liberals, it seems designed to stir some up.

Michael, thanks for that, as an ex-Corporal (substantive, mind!) I had no idea what an 'LCS' was but now I know a little more. Alas, even as dumb as I am, I will not make the mistake of offering an opinion on this particular example!

Bob, not quite so, from what I read:

"The names for new ships are personally decided by the Secretary of the Navy. ... Cruisers were named for cities while destroyers came to be named for American naval leaders and heroes, as today's destroyers are still named. Starting in 1931 submarines were named for "fish and denizens of the deep."

And to find the idea of naming a warship after this particular lady as somewhat ludicrous does not entail "personal hatred or resentment for liberals". After all, is it not time a ship was named after our very own special correspondent, 'JK', whose service in the US Navy was such that he still bears the scars today!

Michael if that is a photo of the vessel in question it is not "unarmed". It has a highly visible turret mounted gun near the bow. I suspect the hatch just for'd of the bridge conceals a missile installation and from the helicopter pad on the aft deck it probably carries whatever the US navy currently uses as an attack chopper.

I suppose I could Google the class and see if I am anywhere near right.

I do agree with you that it is not a pretty ship.

Well I did Google it.

http://www.snopes.com/uss-gabrielle-giffords-gun-free/

According to that it is not "gun free".

Why doesn't Trump name the thing USS Sarah Palin?

Not good looking enough BoE

Now look here, AussieD, 'MDS' (My Darling Sarah) is the very epitome of American womanhood and I would have a care, if I were you, she shoots pretty damn straight, so I hear!

G'day Duffers,

I meant the ship was not good looking enough not the glorious Sarah with the long hair and

David, in the main you're correct. There are some exceptions, though, such as the California, which is also a class of destroyers:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_destroyers_of_the_United_States_Navy


The real Sarah Palin can shoot a moose at a thousand feet, field dress it and then do her nails, all before returning to camp! Careful boys!

I didn't realise that Moose could jump that high!

:))

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