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Thursday, 21 June 2018

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It seems, always and forever, that the first threat a free people face is from their own government(s). I guess this is why 'democracy' can not survive. It either dies from suicide or natural causes.

As far as the Tory party goes, at least it has enough vigor to be at war within. Sort of like our Republican party o'er here.

"If it leads to a general disillusionment with the Tories amongst voters and that in turn leads to a Corbyn Marxist government then that will be the equivalent of pulling down our roof onto our own heads!"

Well, unless the Blairites batter the poor old codger into submission, at least we'll be free of that nasty capitalist conspiracy that is the EU!

I'm happy to be a bit poorer to leave the EU, but not absolutely bankrupt like Venezuela!

We should have held a referendum a quarter of a century ago, when we signed up to Maastricht (or rather Major signed us up). A referendum is the right way forward when there are deep underlying divisions and MPs don't reflect the public's views. I fully accept that an MP is entitled to use his or her own judgment on issues - except they might have to answer to the party's whips. They are not delegates but representatives. However, a referendum is different and should have decided the issue. The people have spoken. If we had voted to Remain, I would have accepted that despite my loathing of the EU. It would be bizarre to criticise the EU for its democratic deficit and then not accept a democratic decision.

The threats of job loses will come thick and fast by the remainers Air Bus being the latest.
The EU unelected beaurocrats are going to fight for their existence and the gloves are of.

"Well, unless the Blairites batter the poor old codger into submission, at least we'll be free of that nasty capitalist conspiracy that is the EU!"

So you don't want Libertarianism / Capitalism.

"I'm happy to be a bit poorer to leave the EU, but not absolutely bankrupt like Venezuela!"

And you don't want Authoritarianism / Socialism.

What do you want, Whyaxe?

You seem to be a very confused bunny, in the "two plus two equals five" fantasy zone, dreaming away like a good 'un.

Enough Brexiteers have woken up to the reality of the choices such that Brexit is no longer the "will of the people" - your goodly self excepted.

And as for "the will of the people", what is the constitution for this "mob rule by referenda" governance to replace parliamentary democracy that you speak of?

Bluntly, how often do we get a referendum?

Is it like the Nazi party in the 1930's: "Once you've voted us in, that's it, no more elections?"

SoD

BoJo makes a tit of himself, again ...

' An EU diplomat from another country said, “The Conservatives are meant to be the party of business but now it looks like the European Commission is the best friend of British business.” '

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2018/06/23/eu-diplomats-shocked-boriss-four-letter-reply-business-concerns/

Too bloody right.

But what would you expect from an institution defined by Margaret Thatcher's legacy, compared to a paternalist, "we, we, we", bossy-boots, take-back-control, authoritarian pol like BoJo?

SoD

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