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Thursday, 04 August 2005

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Holy mackeral, I'm famous!

I have to say that I am rather pleasantly surprised to find that what you suggested in an earlier response to one of my comments is true: we are closer on this than I originally thought.

I agree with the majority of this post's points. So either you have changed your position, or are stating it more clearly (or in a more limited form.) Or perhaps going off drugs has really helped my reading comprehension.

Reasonable people may still disagree about specific tactics that may or may not be allowed during intertogations -- including likely the two of us.

But we certainly agree that the case in question was torture and murder.

And that interrogation techniques should not be applied by untrained personnel who are allowed to improvise.

And that "neither the British or the American authorities have thought through the requirements in this area for use in this unique war that we are engaged in."

And that "It should all be brought out in the open."

In fact it seems that the last point is perhaps the most important. It is the secretive, sweep-it-all-under-the-rug aspect of this that is so heinous.

If we believe that what we are doing is right and is justified then the government should be open about it, and let our citizens decide to agree or not.

Yes, Jack, it probably was my poor literary expression skills that confused you. (I feel the ghost of Miss Wood, Eng. Lang. & Lit., circa 1950-55, standing behind me pursing her lips!) Anyway, nice to have you on board.

We have all just seen an example of how a policy slipped through on the quiet can go tragically wrong, in the case of Mr. Menezes.

I will take this opportunity to re-emphasise another point I made in relation to the formation of a proper interrogation centre. It should only be formed, if, and only if, the country is facing a sustained and co-ordinated terrorist campaign. I am not completely convinced that that is now the case. I suspect, for I cannot know, that what we are faced with is a series of ad hoc actions undertaken by groups of individuals - although the man held in Italy seems to be somewhat different. What I mean is, that we do not face the equivalent of the IRA Council which 'commanded and controlled'.

(I've just realised that this comment is becoming rather long-winded, so later today I will cut and paste it into a proper post, up above.)

"It should only be formed, if, and only if, the country is facing a sustained and co-ordinated terrorist campaign. I am not completely convinced that that is now the case."

OK now you're beginning to scare me. If we agree much more, I don't know what I'll do.

BTW -- maybe you can make (or repeat) a post the origins and definition of the term "trot-lot creche"?

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