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Thursday, 18 October 2007

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"There are some cases in which judges have to pass heavy sentences in order to express public revulsion..."

That sentence doesn't express 'public revusion', so much as judicial indifference. All too typical.

But then, we can but hope that the other prisoners will get a crack at these two in their brief period behind bars. At least they can be relied upon to mete out a proper punishment, given half a chance...

"...as sentence was passed she tried to reach across the dock to kiss her husband, the man who tortured her little girl to death..."

Cue lefties whining that she was 'oppressed by her husband', 'inadequate', or that it was 'all society's fault for not providing mothers with more help'...

And I notice too that this pair of oxygen-thieves were drug addicts (oh, no, sorry, in the strictly non-judgemental language of the Beeb these days, 'drug users'...!) - rather like this case, that doesn't seem to have made the BBC News page yet:

http://www.bdpost.co.uk/content/barkinganddagenham/post/news/story.aspx?brand=BDPOnline&category=news&tBrand=northlondon24&tCategory=newsbdp&itemid=WeED17%20Oct%202007%2014%3A43%3A00%3A610

I forgot to mention, Julia, that two social workers(?) called on the family but, needless to say, nothing happened. Cue a further enquiry into Social Services followed by no action against anyone but yet another call for more "resources".

"A statement released by Sarah Bishop's mother Shereen Murphy said justice had been done.

"Daniel Bishop has pleaded guilty to Lois's manslaughter. I am aware that a small minority of the community are implying that I, as Lois's grandmother, was aware of what that little girl was suffering and did nothing to stop it.

"I ask - do people really think that if I could have stopped this tragedy happening, would I have allowed it to happen?" "

Well, sweetie, your daughter was an uncaring feckless waste of space who should never have been allowed to have children - who is to say she didn't learn that attitude from her mother's knee....?

"I forgot to mention, Julia, that two social workers(?) called on the family but, needless to say, nothing happened. Cue a further enquiry into Social Services followed by no action against anyone but yet another call for more "resources"."

Oh, absolutely! And, of course, 'lessons will be learned'...

Exactly!

"...should never have been allowed to have children..."

I'll bet you consider yourself a libertarian too...

How would the authorities enforce that, I wonder?

Now stand by for 'Ratty' to come galloping over the horizon to tell me that legal matters are far too complicated for outsiders to understand...

Pish - I've repeatedly told you that legal matters are quite easy to understand, if you are prepared to learn.

To that end, I've given you multiple links to Wiki entries on the definition of murder, standards of evidence and Mens Rea, official statements from the Police and CPS, and dictionary definitions of legal terms. I even sent you lengthy emails explaining the reality of deterrence and criminality.

Hell, I've even linked you to sites explaining basic logic and argumentative fallacies, explained in an easy-to-understand style.

All of this I did to help you gain a basic understanding of the system you so loudly condemn, so that you could criticise it from a position of strength, rather than abject ignorance.

And every single attempt has been waved away with cries of I don't have to read your legal jargon! followed by chimpanzoid chest-beating and shrieks.

So you'll excuse me if I don't pony up with the goods on this case - I'm well aware that you're far,far happier when your delicate mind is uncluttered by knowledge.

So 12 years (=7!) for manslaughter was about right, then, 'Ratty'?

You are correct David.

Ignore the whining of the self satisfied liberal middle-class filth.

The scum should be Hanged, drawn and quartered.

End of.

So 12 years (=7!) for manslaughter was about right, then, 'Ratty'?

See my last paragraph for an answer.

Take that as a 'yes', then, shall I, 'Ratty'?

Good to hear from you again, Will, but I wish you'd give up this tergiversation and just say what you think!

sad lois will be sadly missed i live in lansbury and feel real sorry for her luv you lois from family and friends xxx

I understand your sentiment, 'Meee'.

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