Murder Inc. #18

Please note ADDITIONAL 13/10: As I indicated on previous posts in this series, this is my amateurish effort to record the murders in the UK based on BBC news reports.  I also indicated that the first two months were unreliable mainly because to begin with I only used the main "BBC UK" page and failed to go to each of the regional pages - mea culpa! This weakness in my overall statistics has been worrying me and because, at last, I have had a sensible comment on the subject I thought now was the time to correct my error.  I have decided to start my rolling totals from the 3rd July (instead of 17th May), in other words I have subtracted the totals from my post "They died in vain #6" and started again at zero from that date.  This subtracted 58 male, 38 female and 19 children from the previous rolling total and I have amended the figures at the bottom of this post accordingly.

Even so, readers should be aware that I am completely at the mercy of the BBC News sites and they can be subject to several vagaries, such as, failing to report a murder at all in which case I only find out later if and when a suspect is arrested or charged, and, simply reporting an unexplained death and failing to follow up. Also readers should be aware that I apply my standards as to what does or does not constitute murder, that is, an act leading to death taken with malice and violence, an act leading to death whilst carrying out an illegal action, an act (or lack of action) leading to death and amounting to criminal negligence.  I will try and indicate any marginal cases so that readers can judge for themselves.

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This my amateur effort to incorporate into one log all the men, women and children murdered in the UK since July 3rd 2007.  I will update it regularly until it is about to 'drop off' the bottom of the page when I will re-post it.  I have re-named it as of 1/9 and previous entries with a different layout can be seen under the headings "They died in vain".  For my purposes, adults are 17 yrs or more, children are 16 yrs or less. 

CODES: EN= England, SC=Scotland, NI=Northern Island, WA=Wales.

By providing these bare details I hope to impress on you that these are real human beings not just statistics:

Sat 13th - Mon 15th

Four murders in Scotland over the weekend - good job their football team didn't lose!

• EN: Thamesmead: Man 44, stabbed, 5 men arr.
• SC:  Glasgow: Man 42, fight
• EN: Halstead: Man 54, head injuries, man 18 arr.
• NI: Cavehill: Man 30s, fall from cliff, mann 24 arr.
• SC: Glasgow: Man 37, stabbed at home, 2 men arr.
• SC: Motherwell: Man 20, at home, woman 20 arr.
• SC: Glasgow: Man 56, sustained assault, man 43 arr.

Wed 10th - Fri 12th

• EN: W'hampton: Man dead in street, man arr.
• EN: Man 34, in June fell thro' roof, criminal negligence, boss on trial
• WA: Woman on 27/9, man arr.

Mon 8th - Tue 9th

• EN: Huddersfield: Man dead in pond, man arr.
• EN: Tavistock: Woman 40s, dead in car, woman arr.
• EN: Tameside: Man 33, stabbed, woman 26 arr.
• EN: PLaistow: Man 17, stabbed stopping robbery
• NI: Ballykelly: Woman, drug o.d. during party

Sat 6th Oct - Sun 7th

• EN: Leicester: Boy 2, man 38 arr.
• WA: St. Athan: Man 47, on 8/8, youth 17 arr
• EN: Portsmouth: Man 33, in flats, man arr.
• EN: Manchester: Woman 41, multi stab, man arr.
• EN: Huddersfield: Woman 40, multi stab, man 22 arr.
• EN: New Cross: Woman 47 (daughter in hosp), fire, man arr.

Mon 1st Oct - Fri 5th

• EN: Sheffield: Man 80! newsagent killed, 2 arrests aged 15 & 20.
• EN: Bilston: Boy 16 drowned by youths throwing rocks, 3 arr.
• EN: Sheffield: Girl 14, dead in house, man arr.
• WA: Woman 24, killed walking dog, youth 16 arr.
• EN: Woman 26, shot in x-fire in gang war, 4 arr, incl 1 woman.
• EN: Stockwell: Man 26 shot in stairwell.
• EN: Nottingham: Man, body found in burning car.
• EN: B'ham: Man, body in park.
• SC: Isle Islay: Man, dead in street.

TOTAL SINCE 3/7: 157 men:    38 women:  19 children: 

Please note ADDITIONAL 13/10: As I indicated on previous posts in this series, this is my amateurish effort to record the murders in the UK based on BBC news reports.  I also indicated that the first two months were unreliable mainly because to begin with I only used the main "BBC UK" page and failed to go to each of the regional pages - mea culpa! This weakness in my overall statistics has been worrying me and because, at last, I have had a sensible comment on the subject I thought now was the time to correct my error.  I have decided to start my rolling totals from the 3rd July (instead of 17th May), in other words I have subtracted the totals from my post "They died in vain #6" and started again at zero from that date.  This subtracted 58 male, 38 female and 19 children from the previous rolling total and I have amended the figures at the bottom of this post accordingly.

Even so, readers should be aware that I am completely at the mercy of the BBC News sites and they can be subject to several vagaries, such as, failing to report a murder at all in which case I only find out later if and when a suspect is arrested or charged, and, simply reporting an unexplained death and failing to follow up. Also readers should be aware that I apply my standards as to what does or does not constitute murder, that is, an act leading to death taken with malice and violence, an act leading to death whilst carrying out an illegal action, an act (or lack of action) leading to death and amounting to criminal negligence.  I will try and indicate any marginal cases so that readers can judge for themselves.

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This my amateur effort to incorporate into one log all the men, women and children murdered in the UK since July 3rd 2007.  I will update it regularly until it is about to 'drop off' the bottom of the page when I will re-post it.  I have re-named it as of 1/9 and previous entries with a different layout can be seen under the headings "They died in vain".  For my purposes, adults are 17 yrs or more, children are 16 yrs or less. 

CODES: EN= England, SC=Scotland, NI=Northern Island, WA=Wales.

By providing these bare details I hope to impress on you that these are real human beings not just statistics:

Comments

[David Duff]

(NB: This comment was left by Simon Metz as #44 on a long (and tedious) thread attached to my post "The morgues are overflowing and the liberals are beginning to catch a whiff". As he has made an effort to begin a sensible conversation I have moved it up here.)

"Well, I might move this on, then, as the impass is becoming somewhat irritating.

So, what's the body count? 500? That's bad. LEt's say by the end of the year it hits last year's figures. It probably won't. Do we have a problem Britain? Yeah. Is it getting worse? No. Murder rates have fallen year on year since 2003. Despite the rise before 2003, including during the lefty Thatcher era, things appear to be improving. What should we do about our problem? Find out what Labour's implemented since 2003 and support it, perhaps. Find out what has changed in the economy and how this affects social marginalisation and associated violent crime? Post BBC soties on a blog?

You can't chart the decline of a nation with BBC hits, David. A longitudinal study of actual crime figures versus media reporting would show less homicide but more media reporting of it - we all know this and I suspect Teabag and Hosehorse and the other pseudonymic guests here know that you know this. Therein lies their suspicion of your motives in compiling these figures.

Have we got a problem Britain? Yes. What should we do about it? Well, certainly not compiling BBC stories on a blog.

And there's no point throwing 600 bodies at people and expecting their reaction to be such that they'd have no arguments against it, they'd submit and agree that throwing one more obody into the pile for each person killed would sove the problem. You were right all along, David, sorry. You thought that would happen, it didn't. Try something else.

Try this: Find anywhere - ANYWHERE - where the use of the death penalty today is reducing the crime is is intended to deter. ANYWHERE, David. Then we can debate."
Simon Metz 12/10

[Elmer Quigley Gooseburger]

This is my amateur effort....

Tautological, Mr Duff.

[Clairwil]

I wonder why so many more men than women are murdered.

[Flying Rodent]

I wonder why so many more men than women are murdered.

Same reason why the majority of amateur boxing you see on the streets at night involves male participants, I think.

[Todd Hosehorse]

How strange that Simon interpreted this post as having something to do with the death penalty. Is there something you're not telling us, David?

[David Duff]

Simon, I have responded to your reasoned comment, for which thanks, in a seperate post above.