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Sunday, 09 December 2007


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I've never read a single word of Beckett simply because anyone I've ever met that likes him is utterly loathsome.

As for your last paragraph I can state with some confidence that nobody gains an appreciation of art from modern education. The little I've learned came from not attending school (except for R.E), my family and trying to educate myself in art galleries, museums and libraries.

I currently work with graduates who cannot speak without using the word basically and don't see anything wrong with starting a sentence with the words 'I'd went...'.

I expect they'll all be watching Crossroads in 200 years time.

I was going to suggest that "Lucky Jim" will be enjoyed for as long as there are Universities, but come to think of it I enjoyed it at school before I knew anything about Universities. I have now thought of one post-1950 book that will surely be read 200 years hence: Jim Watson's "The Double Helix". Is it Art? It's certainly artful.

Clairwil, you are, marginally, better off reading Beckett than watching him in the theatre because at least you can toss the book to one side and switch on to something really interesting like "Strictly Come Dancing", where-as watching one of his interminable plays traps you until the interval. Mind you, the first drink you knock back to celebrate your escape tastes wonderful!

Sorry, 'DM', but you are risking a red card if you come up with any more non-runners. Watson's "Double Helix" is, I believe, a sort of scientific autobiography and is there-by disqualified. I think Mr. Murray was referring to works of imagination. Mind you, there is probably quite a lively evening's conversation to be had on the subject of - Amis, pere et fils: will they last? I could see off a few drams listening to that one but I would be confined to listening for the simple reason that I've only ever read 'Lucky Jim" and I was about 16 years old at the time!

Oh, get over yourself you great big ponce.

No arguments regarding Beckett. I've tried, believe me, but my mind goes numb after about two pages.

I don't think I have a 'Seriously?'list. Better that way, I'd be here all bloody day..........

I will nominate a couple of popular songs though.

Waterloo Sunset by The Kinks and Down In The Tube Station At Midnight by The Jam.

Sorry to have inconvenienced you, 'BB', but please feel free to go on your way as soon as you like.

'Ill Man', I don't know "Waterloo Sunset" but for anyone interested, here is the lyric, which I do think begs a very large "Seriously?"

"Dirty old river, must you keep rolling
Flowing into the night
People so busy, makes me feel dizzy
Taxi light shines so bright
But I dont need no friends
As long as I gaze on waterloo sunset
I am in paradise

Every day I look at the world from my window
But chilly, chilly is the evening time
Waterloo sunsets fine

Terry meets julie, waterloo station
Every friday night
But I am so lazy, dont want to wander
I stay at home at night
But I dont feel afraid
As long as I gaze on waterloo sunset
I am in paradise

Every day I look at the world from my window
But chilly, chilly is the evening time
Waterloo sunsets fine

Millions of people swarming like flies round waterloo underground
But terry and julie cross over the river
Where they feel safe and sound
And they dont need no friends
As long as they gaze on waterloo sunset
They are in paradise

Waterloo sunsets fine"

Did P G Wodehouse write anything after 1950?

'DM' apparently he kept writing almost up to his death in 1975. Here's a good reference site:

I have never read him, only 'heard him' on the radio. Tricky business trying to guage whether or not humour will last - I refer again to Shakespeare's desperately unfunny clowns. I should know, I once played Launcelot Gobbo and 'died the death' night after night!

In defence of Waterloo Sunset the lyrics are indeed rubbish but the tune is lovely.

I must take your word for it, Clairwil, and I never underestimate the lasting power of a good tune.

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