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Here's an alternate link to NightWatch from here the archives are accessible:

http://www.kforcegov.com/Services/IS/NightWatch.aspx

Appears I've a comment nested in your "Spam" David. Hopefully this'un'll stay where I mean it to - authored by a good ol' Arkansas feller. & it includes this (maybe answering your, "Will Dim Dave Resign ... if only depending on precedent):

When the UK Parliament voted down Prime Minister Cameron's military participation in Syria on Thursday, that was a blatant sign of war fatigue by civilians in the UK (which also exists in the US). The last time the UK Parliament voted down a Prime Minister on matters of war and peace in the UK was regarding the Crimean War in 1855, meaning the events of Thursday was a once in a lifetime event as a political failure. Lord Aberdeen resigned the next day! Before 1855 the previous time was in 1782, when Parliament voted against further war against America. Lord North, Prime Minister at the time, resigned 3 weeks later!

http://www.informationdissemination.net/2013/08/syria-sitrep.html

"Do some Israelis have a motive to lie to the US regarding events in Syria?"

Yes, and I'm a big supporter of Israel. That's just the way a nation's intelligence agency behaves.

Suppose you were Saddam and had decided to get rid of your chemical weapons so that the UN inspectors wouldn't find any. Would you rather destroy them or sell them to Sunni groups in Syria? Could those groups have the patience to store them until the right moment for deployment?

Just speculation, but I'm mildly surprised not to have seen speculation along these lines on the web or in the papers.

I will repeat: Everyone in the US and the UK who can read without moving their lips, or at least, watch television without moving their lips, understands the global chessboard. I understand it and I am a truly, appallingly horrible chess player. We, the Atlantic Alliance, do not wish to occupy the whole board. We want, first, to block the slave trade. We've mostly accomplished that, although there are still break outs, here and there. We want the seas open, which means free of pirates, as well as interfering governments. We want any fights to take place on the high seas or, if we must fight on land, fight in somebody else's country. Iraq was a good square to block mischief from Iran or in Syria, and EVERYONE knew that Saddam had Bugs and Gas, and dormant programs to produce more, once the damned UN sanctions were lifted. Or, rewind the tape. Look at Kenya. The Brits did not drink coffee, and the Kenyans were not even growing it, anyway. Kenya was a just a good square to put a pawn, to block the East African slave trade. Once coffee was well enough established, the Kenyans could block the slavers themselves, even with some of the truly deplorable governments they have had, although nowadays, I shouldn't talk. So Kenya was made independent. Iraq would have continued to have horrible governments when we left, but, if we'd stayed a bit longer, the power of those successive governments would have been sufficient to check Iran.

It was all so simple. There were two groups who did not like the chessboard: The people who wanted to take all the squares, and their gulls. Someone will rule the world. Will it be a New Caliphate? China? Most Americans in the 19th century were quite content to let John (Bull) manage it.

Now, O'Bozo, who gives every appearance of siding against us in the chess game, or of utter stupidity, although one does not rule out the other, has bungled us out of Iraq, and is trying his dead level best to bungle us IN to Syria. I guanandamnedtee you, if I can see the folly, it is slapping Occupy Resolute Desk upside the head. Still, he presses on. However, Congress has awakened. The phylum coelenerata is in motion, mostly carried by the tide, of course, but moving against him. The shadowy figures behind him, Ayers, Soros, et al, who favor disastrous US policy because they want disaster for the US, are mostly pretty gung-ho about intervention. Unfortunately for the Idiot in Chief, the Useful Idiots have not been brought in line, and are opposed. This could be wonderful.

Dearieme,

Even I knew the bugs and gas went to Syria. Diplomad has a piece that mentions an Iraqi diplomat who was gloating about it, ten years ago. Satellite photos showed a very long convoy from Baghdad to the Syrian border, leading up to the invasion. I'd be quite interested in evidence to the contrary, but, until it surfaces, yeah, that's what makes sense to me.

I'm gonna have to "somewhat" disagree Mr. Adams.

(I'm somewhat boxed in because 'out-in-the-real-world' my name appears in print from back in '03 doubting [doubting - as in "unconvinced"] Saddam in actuality held on to his CW capability not only due to his experience in the Iran-Iraq War - but it was only a "handy" ruse to keep any would-be opponent off balance.)

More immediate fears such as WMD were a pretext for a long-held ambition.

There are, however, several reasons to limit this argument. WMD was not a mere pretext – the evidence doesn’t permit that judgment. In fact, it was the one thing that disparate pro-war advocates could agree on, as Paul Wolfowitz has claimed, though as Jeffrey Record has shown, it served more as a totem for a whole range of other agendas, such as creating a pro-American democratic ally in Baghdad and in a vital strategic oil-rich position, removing the main rejectionist Arab regime, avenging the humiliations he had meted out, and restoring fear of American power. While Washington and London presented ambiguous, tentative and uncertain evidence as cast-iron certainty, the record suggests that both governments assumed that whatever the evidence, Saddam had a WMD programme.

http://offshorebalancer.wordpress.com/2013/03/22/iraq-it-takes-a-president/

I will freely give that "gas & bugs intel" is difficult & does not readily lend itself in ways policymakers should rely on.

I do not however say "Saddam's WMDs [and I dislike "WMD" preferring instead to use "area-deniers" for gas and bug stuff. Nukes for sure are "mass destructive" but call me tetchous] definitely did not headout for Damascus" - to repeat, I did not say Saddam's gas and bugs didn't make the trip -rather that I was unconvinced.

But, once in ...

"Edit at leisure" for sure.

Strike "capability" insert, "stocks."

Anybody can whip up batches of chem agents - here in the States we have too many high-school dropouts whipping up batches of methamphetamine and not a few who'd know [and have] how to take a few bags of ammonium nitrate and make someplace go boom.

Mr. Adams.

Now, O'Bozo, ... has bungled us out of Iraq ...

While I'll have to see about how to go about getting what I used to have (I've since reformatted and updated my OS since I last had need) - MOST IMPORTANTLY - don't make the mistake that I'm in anyway a supporter/conspirator/mouthpiece/"friend" of this Misadministration) anyway, I used to have a jpeg of the SOFA bearing a State letterhead.

But I've only had time to do a quick search for "official" US-Iraq SOFA of 2008 material.

I "think" you'll be able to glean the problems our servicemembers would of have been forced to consider operating in Iraq following the election wherein O'Bozo got hisself elected from this Congressional Research Service doc.

One thing maybe to bear in mind is we've got some few servicemen in Japanese prisons following (among other things) rape convictions while under the jurisdiction of Japanese courts.

Of course the Japanese don't follow Shariah ...

http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/natsec/R40011.pdf

This "may" be in Spam David:

Mr. Adams.

Now, O'Bozo, ... has bungled us out of Iraq ...

While I'll have to see about how to go about getting what I used to have (I've since reformatted and updated my OS since I last had need) - MOST IMPORTANTLY - don't make the mistake that I'm in anyway a supporter/conspirator/mouthpiece/"friend" of this Misadministration) anyway, I used to have a jpeg of the SOFA bearing a State letterhead.

But I've only had time to do a quick search for "official" US-Iraq SOFA of 2008 material.

I "think" you'll be able to glean the problems our servicemembers would of have been forced to consider operating in Iraq following the election wherein O'Bozo got hisself elected from this Congressional Research Service doc.

One thing maybe to bear in mind is we've got some few servicemen in Japanese prisons following (among other things) rape convictions while under the jurisdiction of Japanese courts.

Of course the Japanese don't follow Shariah ...

http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/natsec/R40011.pdf

On JKs point - in fact the manufacture of a neurotoxic agent (GA, GB, VX) is considerably easier than meth (and vesicant/blister agents are easier still). The issues of quality control, volume and delivery are the only limitations, assuming access to some easily accessible 'chemicals'.

Remember all those drums of 'agricultural chemicals' found so conveniently near (in) military installations? (Soldiers do so love to garden!)

The convoy? Not my field, but easy to move the processing equipment rather than a mass of precursor and end product? Just like all those (rumoured) centrifuges?

JK ANFO is so much fun but a bit 'old school' don't you think. Showing your age?

"Showing my age?"

I was simply a precocious twelve-year old writing my Congress Critter[s] Able.

That's why - I'm pretty sure - my Congress Critters could simply dismiss anything I had to say - no vote, no pay attention!

Agent Orange Kissenger has never been held to account. The Yanks are showing footage of what appears to be a napalm type attack on Syrian civilians. That must bring back happy memories for them. Where is Vietnam!

Able?

From Malcolm's site:

http://syriaanalysis.wordpress.com/2013/08/23/10/

Just my opinion, but this seems the likeliest. Everything I've come to understand from the "experts" I've dealt with in the past - pretty much mirroring what was contained in a comment you left over on Waka.

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I'd add a cautionary (Obama/Hagel/NSA?) note - we [US] use a lot of AR munitions. Might want to keep in mind, the Russians WILL be radiating. Take care any aircraft launched missiles are heat seekers only.

Laser guided in a pinch - provided you've dependable AQ types doing Forward Air Controller duties for us.

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