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Saturday, 02 May 2015

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Power corrupts, absolute power...well you know. We'll just let this "Trayvon Martin" style theatre play through. The "Dersh" has it nailed. Unfortunately, this theatre is one that keeps politicians from coming to grips with the crux of the problems of black America. That is the purpose.

And today I pick up rumours that Mr. Gray ran because he was dealing drugs and the PM showed drugs in his body system. Once those 'charges' are moved to a different locale and an independent prosecutor and judge, I doubt any of them will stick!

"protects a black man from being convicted of a heinous crime he did not commit."

Actually he doesn't. The black man is convicted and subsequently murdered on the way to prison.

I put off reading To Kill a Mockingbird because it was an English set book (albeit one we never did) and I assumed it would be crap. I read it a couple of years back, it is absolutely magnificent on so many levels. Ignore the fact that lefties love it, get hold of it and read it.


Actually he doesn't. The black man is convicted and subsequently murdered on the way to prison.

Nope. He gets sent to prison and is killed when he tried to escape.

@Tim Newman

OK I acknowledge the Sheriff reports that his deputy shot Tom trying to escape ON THE WAY to prison. I never got that we were supposed to believe that!

Whitewall we can give opinions on books, films etc but locking up policemen for political purposes is obscene. If those guys are found blameless then there will be riots. If they are found guilty although innocent then people will rejoice knowing innocent men are being banged up and families ruined. And the next time an innocent black! is killed we have a re-run. Is there no one capable of getting a grip? Will the cycle continue ?

I have seen the film and have the DVD. My wife has an old publication of the book, (Harper Lee). Sold 30,000,000 copies. It is only fiction however real acts of criminality have always happened in real life and are still happening. So in my mind it is just another book. My point is that books do not change anything except for enjoyment and passing the time. They do not change human nature.

David

You should read it.

I read it several times. It has all the sort of plot twists you like.

Scout is a sheltered ten year old tom boy, old enough to clearly narrate what happened, but not old enough to really understand a rape case, lynch mob, etc. Depending on your mood her account of the same scene can be a tear jerker, or one of the funniest things you will ever read.

Did you know that Dill Harris is actually Truman Capote? He was a childhood friend of Lee's.

Thank you, Gentlemen, for confirming my (admitted) ignorance of the book. I confess to some surprise at your enthusiasm for it because I had always assumed it was a sort of sub-Disney parable for Good Guys versus Bad Guys with little in the way of subtlety in it. Your eager support has pushed it someway up my list of 'Books I oughtta read' but I'm not sure it will ever quite reach the top. My loss, no doubt.


OK I acknowledge the Sheriff reports that his deputy shot Tom trying to escape ON THE WAY to prison. I never got that we were supposed to believe that!

Hah, yes fair enough!

I'm so glad all you swots have difficulty with the story line, it makes me feel better about myself!

I did it in O Level English Literature and hated it with a passion, mainly because I hated again with a passion the English teacher (who was Welsh but I digress). I volunteered to move down to CSE which had a more enjoyable (for me) choice of books which I could recognise and understand.

I'm glad you popped in, Bunny, because it is a rarity for my ragbag collection of commenters to agree with each other and their praise for this book was getting me worried!

"ragbag" collection of commenters? Why I do believe some of you unnamed commenters should take offence!

You excepted, of course, Whitewall, as you are without doubt the epitome of a real 'southern gena'man' and I am assured you have more than three teeth and that you have never been known to miss the ol' spittoon, er, except when sober!

I confess to some surprise at your enthusiasm for it because I had always assumed it was a sort of sub-Disney parable for Good Guys versus Bad Guys with little in the way of subtlety in it.

That's what I assumed, but as Hank says, it is very subtle, particularly in the way the story is told from a child's point of view. Some parts of it are laugh-out-loud funny, especially when they are trying to spy on what they think is the local weirdo. That's why I said it was good on so many levels: it's not just a good vs bad story, indeed Harper Lee once said she wrote it as a children's story.

Did you know that Dill Harris is actually Truman Capote? He was a childhood friend of Lee's.

Yup. It often comes up in discussion as to who wrote what. Capote's best book by far was In Cold Blood, and Lee was his assistant in the research. Harper Lee never wrote another book after Mockingbird, and many suggest they collaborated on both. I don't believe it, but both books are great.

Oh, stop being a silly old fart for 10 minutes and just read the bloody book.
THEN you can talk about it.

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/1965/09/25/in-cold-blood-the-last-to-see-them-alive. Just looked up this link Tim.
Just watching the Mockingbird DVD again!

Yes, Mummy!

Good wee film. Had forgotten that Robert Duvall was the good guy at the end.

Getting back to the matter at hand - what can explain the extreme trigger happiness and casual violence shown by so-called law enforcement officers in the USA?

It takes only limited intelligence to realise that their behaviour and total lack it would seem of decency or self restraint is causing a massive problem, but unfortunately even limited intelligence is not available.

I am not talking just about the succession of possibly more possibly less justified murders of black men, but the whole culture of miltarisation they have now embraced, the TSA arseholes, the routine shootings of domestic animals during SWAT raids for very minor infringements, all these are wholly incompatible with the wonderful values enshrined in their constitution (for libertarians, perhaps the most blessed and important document in history).

No one in the political class dare speak for fear of being seen to have nailed his colours to a mast and as a result there seems to be no thought or reasonabless only knee jerk reactions.

To be clear, it can never be acceptable for a young man in good health to die in custody, in a free society. Period.

Cufflyburgers. In the perfect society where people smile all day and do not commit crime then there would be no need for the police. The police who are our sons and daughters have to protect society because humans on occasion are a nasty lot. The people who protect us are like us and not perfect therefore they make mistakes and get upset. If you care to look into the facts lots of police go of the rails because they are subjected to human behaviour. Some lash out. It is life. So do not commit crime and be a decent citizen.

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