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Tuesday, 26 September 2017

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Disrespect of the National Anthem and Flag is just that - dis-respect of what a lot of people hold dear. How people view that will differ, but not, I think, on political grounds.

Let's look on the bright side. Every time he says something daft about football, he's not saying something dangerous about North Korea.

As far as I can see a bunch of highly paid entertainers have chosen to alter their act in a manner that upsets much of their audience.
What ends up happening will depend on what the audience does.
Trump is betting that most of the audience don't like the change, and pitching for their support.

some black American idiots giving a black power salute at the Olympic games

Unfortunately the other idiot on the dais - the white one - was actually an Australian athlete called Peter Norman [now deceased] who supported the two black athletes in their protest.

He was given a rough time on his return for politicizing the Olympics [not that they weren't already politicized].

Football-American style-has been under the gun by liberals...now called "progressives", for years. The game was too masculine, too militaristic, too rough, too guilty of causing "wife abuse" on Sunday afternoons blah blah blah. But as of last year when a marginal player decided to make a display of himself on tv to vent his politics-in Barack Obama's America---that was the opening "progressives" were waiting for as the antics of this and then other very well paid players spread. Our national pass time had been politicized. The one safe institution where people could get away to for a day or just a few hours to forget the nasty world. No more.

All Trump did was notice and give voice, as only he can, to what the majority of fed up citizens felt. He didn't politicize the game. He simply put the other side on the field in the culture war and the left went crazy.

Any organization or institution the left becomes involved with, or even touches, becomes degraded, devalued and left to rot. That is their goal in Western Civilization and they are killing it.

Brief but good:
http://www.thediplomad.com/2017/09/the-progressive-assault-on-we.html

Our constitution allows protests of the government. Both black and white athletes wish to express their feelings about unfair treatment of minorities. Taking a knee or staying in the locker room until after the national anthem has nothing to do with disrespecting the flag or the military. Furthermore, Americans don't give up their right to freedom of speech once their earnings go over some arbitrary amount. In fact the situation is the opposite. Black Americans are 2.5 times as likely as white Americans to be shot by police regardless of their income. "Ungrateful" has become the new "uppity".

Trump is distorting the situation to draw attention away from yet another failure to repeal the ACA, his bellicose rhetoric against North Korea, and the Russia investigations. Once the the steam runs out of this controversy he'll find another to tweet about.

When these entitled athletes actually do something to change the plight of the american black boys - growing up without fathers, killing each other - then I will have some respect for them. Right now, as far as I am concerned, they are doing nothing to further their cause, just adding more bullying tactics if you don't agree with them. I include the bloody left wing in that bullying comment.
Yes, they have every right to protest, and I have every right to disagree with their tactics.

Forgot to mention Trump is also trying to distract from his ignoring the destruction of Puerto Rico for almost a week and at least a half dozen highly ranked people in his administration using private email accounts. You know, the thing that made Clinton public enemy #1 during the campaign.

No doubt, Bob, you will correct me if I am wrong but in Clinton's case it was using a private server to send and receive *classified* documents.

David,

Clinton had three emails marked "classified" on her server, but the FBI concluded there wasn't evidence to indict her for willfully mishandling information. We don't yet know if any Trump administration emails contained classified information. We do know that Trump personally gave highly classified information to Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov and Ambassador Sergey Kislyak in an Oval Office meeting on 5/10/17 and that there's a lot of hypocrisy on display:

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/09/25/white-house-email-trump-aides-used-personal-devices-and-private-email.html

Over a year ago, I was flamed and then defriended by a left leaning drama school type because I had dared to challenge the Black Lives Matter Movement. Basically, I said that while I agreed that any Policeman who shot someone without good cause should be locked up and the key thrown away, Black Lives Matter had got their priorities completely wrong given that little more than a dozen black people had been shot by the Police as opposed to literally thousands who had been murdered by other black people over the same period and that they would do better to put their own house in order first.

Now we have American Football and the 'Take A Knee' movement. Paul Joseph Watson gives figures that are very similar to the ones I used:

"16 unarmed black men killed by cops per year.
2400 black men killed by other black men per year.
Anyone gonna #TakeAKnee over that?"

It puts it all nicely into perspective doesn't it? The only thing I would add is that the only NFL members who come out well out of all this are players such as Alejandro Villanueva who recently was the only member of his team to stand while the Star Spangled Banner was played. To stand alone against the mob. Now that takes real guts. Sir, I salute you!

Over to Mr Watson who has does a better and more comprehensive demolition job on all this horse s*it than I could manage.
Granted, his delivery is acerbic, but if anyone disagrees with him, a point by point rebuttal should be given. I would advise caution though as he seems to have done his homework.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thg4lnaVIT4

Richard, this Black Lives Matter...when it's convenient...and disrespect of our flag is yet another example of the Left putting the well worn saddle on the ever willing Black Man to advance their agenda of anti Americanism. These black athletes are very well paid as in many millions of dollars. The NFL has also been called the National Felons League.

Unfortunately, this cultural Lefty rot has spread to the college level sports world. Twenty year olds now match the felony level of their older idols. The majority of these college felons are black.

As if it's needed ...

https://www.city-journal.org/html/hard-data-hollow-protests-15458.html

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/276492/

US Code 301
(a)Designation.—
The composition consisting of the words and music known as the Star-Spangled Banner is the national anthem.
(b)Conduct During Playing.—During a rendition of the national anthem—
(1) when the flag is displayed—
(A) individuals in uniform should give the military salute at the first note of the anthem and maintain that position until the last note;
(B) members of the Armed Forces and veterans who are present but not in uniform may render the military salute in the manner provided for individuals in uniform; and
(C) all other persons present should face the flag and stand at attention with their right hand over the heart, and men not in uniform, if applicable, should remove their headdress with their right hand and hold it at the left shoulder, the hand being over the heart; and
(2) when the flag is not displayed, all present should face toward the music and act in the same manner they would if the flag were displayed.
It appears, therefore that the 'kneelers' and 'hiding in the locker room people are committing an offence against the constitution of the United States. Does this count as treason? I have no idea.

The US code is a compilation of federal statutes. It is not the constitution. 'The Star-Spangled Banner' was made the national anthem by President Herbert Hoover 1931.

Yup, that's right Bob.

And, I'd venture to say, there're few who realize how it all got started for sporting events;

https://audioboom.com/posts/6338773-who-invented-the-star-spangled-banner-at-the-old-ball-game-tevitroy

I'd add, just personally speaking that, while there's a whole buncha people "outraged" over what they perceive to be, a general sleight toward those who served, I don't personally agree with that. And further that, while I can understand the bunches' bitch, I like to think "my service" was [partially] rendered to give "the protesters" the right to do just that.

Bob and JK,
Thanks for that. I stand corrected.

"Does this count as treason?" No, "progressiveism".

JK, I sincerely appreciate and respect your view on the matter. And I didn't know the custom started in Chicago. Thanks for that too.

We might also agree that burning the flag is worse than what the NFL players are doing. A lot of people would be surprised to know that a hero of the right, Justice Antonin Scalia, ruled it constitutional:

http://www.businessinsider.com/justice-scalia-flag-burning-trump-2016-11

There's not much in the world that's only black and white.

It's not treason. But it is disrespectful to the United States. It is also ignorant bullshit and virtue signaling by multi-millionaire ballplayers to their homeboy fans, who are also ignorant fools.

While I [moreso] agree with you too Henry, that it's disrespectful, ignorant, worse, virtue-signalling; my chosen reaction beginning last year (whenever it was that guy whose name I can't bother myself to look up the proper spelling of ... begins with a "K" I think) was to cease all personal interest in the "game." The professionals game anyways. And so I remain to this day.

Still, I stand by my earlier, whether its pertinent or not.

I might've though, stuck to watching the college variety except that as presently "my Razorbacks" ain't doing worth spit - I ain't exerting mysef overly with them either.

On principal.

Gents, I gave up all college sports about 10 years ago and the NFL about four years ago. Both are infested with criminals and too much money etc. I gave up the NBA when Michael Jordan retired which should not surprise as I am a NC Tarheel. I never watched hockey period. Not a true Southerners sport.

What you mean Whitewall? Theys somebody, somebody anywheres that, does consider hockey's a sport?!!!

Even in yankeeland?

I just cain't hardly believe that ... it's beyond me I reckon.

Oh. Now I see you a'playin' me - tain't like I just fell off the Grapette truck.

http://www.encyclopediaofarkansas.net/encyclopedia/media-detail.aspx?mediaID=7428

The Russians are also stirring up trouble:

"Researchers at the Alliance for Securing Democracy have been monitoring 600 Twitter accounts they have linked to Russian influence operations. Those accounts, operated by human users and suspected bots alike, pushed the opposing messages surrounding the NFL and the playing of the national anthem, researchers said."

https://www.cnet.com/news/russian-linked-twitter-accounts-stoked-nfl-anthem-debate/

Oh Bob.

You've experienced the fact that, very often, the early reports were wrong?

First "The Russians hacked the elections!"

"Putin wanted Trump for POTUS so he [Putin] would have a puppet!"

"Trump colluded with the Russians!"

Here's a good one from November 1st 2016:

"With our presidential election less than a week away, Hillary Clinton is playing defense, blaming everyone but herself for the political disaster that is enveloping her campaign. Sidetracked by the news that the FBI is reexamining her emails as secretary of state, the Democratic nominee has decided to attack the Bureau and its director, James Comey. Herself and through her usual surrogates, Hillary has painted the FBI as a rogue agency that’s out to get her. Top Democrats have accused Comey of siding with Vladimir Putin."

http://observer.com/2016/11/emailgate-has-destroyed-clinton-inc/

And just last night we now hear,

"The Russians incited [if so - gullible] the people of Baltimore and Ferguson" (as if particular sets of those populations were not already incited/excited/fractious/intemperate).

Take a look Bob, at just the comments on this post.

http://www.theroot.com/black-people-in-ferguson-baltimore-were-targeted-by-a-1818869319

JK,

Clinton has nothing to do with this and the Russians didn't invent the NFL controversy. They're just trying to make it worse. You're a military intelligence guy. Are you going to believe psyops doesn't work?

Bob,

Of course I know psyops work. I also know, sometimes the "intention" either backfires or blowsback. So sometimes, psyops does not work. The problem since the election (and before November 8th) has been the verifiable [according to our media's wholly anonymized] attribution.

But this constant drumming, The Russians, the Russians, the Russians are responsible for leveraging everything! to this military mind at any rate, is becoming extremely tedious/ridiculous. (I stipulate though, it does apparently get clicks, very mucho clicks.)

Recall the Norks hacking Sony?

I tard Bob. I'm hitting the rack. Until next time ...

JK,

I don't believe everything I read in the papers, but there's definitely something to the Russian trolling. The story won't be going away anytime soon.

"What is it. Oh yeah, The popularity of the NFL is falling faster than Bill Clinton’s pants in a trailer park."

I appropriated that line, but it works.

"The story won't be going away anytime soon."

True enough Bob. And I'd venture, through so very many permutations. As we have already witnessed. I'd further venture it will be posited that, a set of the population [near half I reckon] that; the Awan IT Crime Syndicate via the good offices of one Debbie Wasserman-Shultz (helped along by other Dems writ large) "enabled the Russians via the Paki's ISI."

That's psyops for ya, Winning hearts and minds.

JK,

Don't worry be happy. Action star and Russian citizen Steven Seagal explains it all:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIAQkBLpuoE

I see China has made it "statutorily illegal" to ... well

From NW:

"For the record. China has introduced a law making it illegal to “disrespect” the national anthem, punishable with two weeks in prison."

So ... had I another predicate for (just personally speaking) allowing goofballs of whatever stripe "to protest" - emulating China would qualify.

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