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Saturday, 02 March 2019


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David, it was Reginald Maudling who personally ordered the Paras into the fray. I seem to recall the Green Howard's were also in attendance. They were fired on and this was recorded. It is clear that Blair has no respect for British troops considering he sent them to Iraq under false pretences and never included them in the Belfast Agreement where pathological killers were give amnesty.

"... extenuating circumstances (such as the presence at the scene of armed IRA terrorists) ..."

So if you were there and shot because terrorists were in the vicinity you wouldn't complain? Forgive those who harbor doubts.

Bob, If no one had been there inciting violence! The so called civil rights march was marching on an opposition area where they were not wanted. They were stopped probably saving more lives. Such is life!

Glesga, maybe so, but that doesn't make David right.

Bob, "extenuating circumstances" are just that - extenuating circumstances and have no bearing on the rights of the victims to complain, but can have an effect on those judging the issue later. Why do I have to explain 'simples' like that to you?

Only guessing but I assume the average age of entry to a unit like the Paras would have to be early 20's making those in the sights of the legal system around 70.

If they are charged will the successors to the Government that sent them there provide top shelf defence barristers? Somehow I doubt it.

That this is being contemplated is made more odious given the way creatures like Jerry Adams have been given an official whitewash.

Kipling had it summed up in his poem "Tommy"

Yes, makin' mock o' uniforms that guard you while you sleep
Is cheaper than them uniforms, an' they're starvation cheap.
An' hustlin' drunken soldiers when they're goin' large a bit
Is five times better business than paradin' in full kit.
Then it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an` Tommy, 'ow's yer soul? "
But it's " Thin red line of 'eroes " when the drums begin to roll
The drums begin to roll, my boys, the drums begin to roll,
O it's " Thin red line of 'eroes, " when the drums begin to roll.

David, your last paragraph is eminently sensible.


Extenuating circumstances like “peaceful marchers carrying Molotov Cocktails!


The UK Military is run by the civil service. They don't like soldiers. They are expensive, you can get 3 civil servants for the price of one paratrooper.

In my day, BOE, it was the other way round!

Well, I spent 7 years in MoD. Civil servants dislike soldiers, especially because the soldiery believe that most civil servants would be rejected by the military because they are a bunch of unfit dim plonkers.

BOE, civil servants are mainly middle and upper class. They should have to go over an assault course wearing full pack followed by a night out with the squaddies before getting an interview.

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