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Sunday, 11 August 2019

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Well with our Patriot Act (thanks GW) our Fourth and our Fifth Amendments have already bitten the bullet, so to speak, have already taken yuuuge hits. And now with our edukashun system and the squad intending on taking down the First I expect the rest of our Constitution to come under increasing fire.

Sounds like Boris is doing a good job of cleaning out the kakistocracy. Their numbers are unknown. Their damage done is.

Epstein dead in Federal prison. People are shocked? Our institutions have proven to be suspect, even corrupt, so why not prison? Some staff or inmate's family will get a nice payoff.

http://itaintholywater.blogspot.com/2019/08/this-just-in.html

Brexit-Boris and Farage, the New Left, Trump etc:

“But the New Class isn’t limited to communist countries, really. Around the world in the postwar era, power was taken up by unelected professional and managerial elites. To understand what’s going on with President Donald Trump and his opposition, and in other countries as diverse as France, Hungary, Italy and Brazil, it’s important to realize that the post-World War II institutional arrangements of the Western democracies are being renegotiated, and that those democracies’ professional and managerial elites don’t like that very much, because they have done very well under those arrangements. And, like all elites who are doing very well, they don’t want that to change.”

JK, that was very naughty - and also exceedingly witty - well done!

https://audioboom.com/posts/7337667-new-american-civil-war-a-house-divided-will-fall-to-foreign-foes-michael-vlahos-johns-hopkins

Well perhaps David I'm being "naughty" again you'll say?

You realize the political party which was our confederacy back in the 18th century? And "who" was the greatest ally of that confederacy into 1863?

Shades of Christopher Steele!

JK, 19th century.

Oops

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alabama_Claims

Descent into tyranny, against which the Second Amendment is intended as a bulwark, is not a concern of any particular era - as history before and since 1787 amply demonstrates. Does Ms. Daley really believe that it "can't happen here"?

It should be remembered that the right to free speech was allegedly guaranteed by our Bill of rights as well as the US one. Over there politicians have a serious struggle altering that. Here it has been salami sliced away with no problem.
Said bills of rights both "guaranteed" the right to keep and bear arms, and both for the same reason- in order to resist tyranny. That the UK feared Stuart tyranny whereas the US feared Hanoverian tyranny shows more a common view of government than a comment on the particular governments mentioned. Britons were disarmed following the first world war precisely because the government feared the people. You will say that we have yet to suffer tyranny. Maybe, but in 1940 defenceless Norway had yet to be invaded.
As to abortion, gay rights etc. there was no need to twist the constitution for these- nothing in the constitution prevents the States from granting these. It is only the desire of certain politicians to imposes their views on States that disagree that has brought the constitution into the discussion on these points. There is absolutely nothing in the US constitution denying equal rights to women, blacks, transsexual dwarfs or any other variety of human. An amendment to the constitution for this would be mere virtue signalling, the states all have legislation granting this.
As a solution to the current argument over Brexit, well what's going to be in the constitution, who is going to write it, by what margin does it have to be approved are all questions that need deciding. And since we have a substanial minority think we should be subjects of Brussels there is no chance of one being agreed.

David, it could have been Prince Philip that dun in Epstein. After all he dun in Diane an Dodi. Old joke, when Dodi was on the slab the mortician assistant exclaimed that Dodi's baws were blue. The mortician said its OK he was dipping them in Di.

Jimmy - BEHAVE! or you'll be on a charge!

Good for you, David. I didn't think you'd mention Jeffrey Epstein, though the few sentences lack the vivacity engendered by the demise of Harvey Weinstein. Can't imagine why.

G'day JK,

I once had 1:48 scale models of both CSS Alabama and USS Kearsage until a ham fisted removalist managed to drop them whilst being packed for a shift in postings. Irretrievably broken to my dismay and distress.

If the bastard had been a matelot he would still be polishing rivets on the keel - and no not the golden rivet.

"Can't imagine why."

Er, nor can I, Bob! Your point is … what, exactly?

David,

Epstein was a billionaire financier, a type right wingers think of as gods, as opposed to a Hollywood (boo, hiss!) mogul. Also, George Houraney, a Florida businessman, has admitted that at Donald Trump's request he organized a "calendar girl" party at Mar-a-Lago that included only Jeffrey Epstein, Trump, and 28 possibly underage women, a story that was widely reported. You skated over that, but went into detail about Weinstein.

https://news.vice.com/en_us/article/ywy7zj/trump-and-jeffrey-epstein-once-partied-with-28-women-at-mar-a-lago

I see you've already posted the goofy conspiracy theory re-tweeted by Trump.

"Epstein was a billionaire financier, a type right wingers think of as gods". Not this Right-winger, Bob!

"a story that was widely reported" - but not by me, Bob, not least because I have never heard or read of it and even the thought of it fills me with tedium.

For goodness sake, Bob, if you want to make an accusation, just spit it out in plain English and try to avoid innuendo!

But ... but, David: Innuendo is an essential part of politics!

Well, Bob, you might consider yourself a 'politician' but I am not!
So, I say again, if you have something to say then just say it plain English - or American if that suits you better!

Bob, what say we do a little experimental re-write?

[Soros, Musk, Gates, Page, is] a billionaire financier, a type right wingers think of as gods.

Still a serviceable innuendo Bob?

And have you read the first tranche of documents Bob?

Trump's listed once - Bill Clinton thirty-nine (39) times. But who do you suppose Rachel Maddow is gonna be making hay on and who do you suppose she'll avoid?

And then we get to where the [first] tranche lists the "folks" who are listed on The Lolita Express' flight logs during the period covered - Trump doesn't appear a single time however along with you-know-who listed on the manifests there are also listings of CNN's Jake Tapper, Chris Cuomo, and Brian Stelter - reckon we'll be hearing on CNN tonight mentions of those three either?

I think I recognize Bob (for probably admittedly the first time) David's objection.

Apologies AussieD, just now espied your comment.

I'm guessing your preference for the mentioned removalist polishing the keel's rivets would not be involving a drydock?

JK,

Humbug. Since the '70's the Business party, a.k.a. the Republican party, has pushed propaganda glorifying "wealth creators" and "job creators" in response to the bad press and social grief the business community got in the '60's and early '70's for war profiteering, tax avoidance, political bribes, and so on; practices which, by the way, have only gotten worse. All the people involved have never been Republican. As far as Epstein is concerned, you seem to be making an argument that all sides did it, so on balance it's a non-issue. Rachael Maddow, Tucker Carlson, and any other opinion media mannequins are not to be taken seriously. They are entertainers.

Gods forbid I ever become a politician, but politics is an interesting subject. Rhetorical contrast is an aspect I'm somewhat familiar with, and occasionally some contrast is in order. With the notable exception of SoD, the messages here are limited to:

"Blah blah change is bad unless it's a move backwards, blah blah cultural suicide, blah blah evil left, blah blah stupid Democrats, blah blah they're out to get us, blah blah we are absolutely correct, blah blah Chicago or any other big US city, blah blah George Soros, blah blah the Clintons", and a few others, ad infinitum.

Happily, Bob, sunk as we are, apparently, in all our non-stop 'blah-blah-blah', we have you to shine the light of reason for us.

Please don't think we are not grateful!

Yeah I agree Bob. I'm at least as grateful as David is.

Maybe a bit more. Maybe a bit less, but its the thought tha' counts innit?

https://www.aol.com/article/news/2019/08/15/federal-prosecutor-blames-shootout-on-rhetoric-of-philadelphia-da/23794399/

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