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Wednesday, 22 April 2020

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What has a Glasgow drunk and a tank in Tiananmen Square got in common, both could murder Chinky.

Left or farther left, they never let a disaster go to waste. They take advantage of people's rights and freedoms. Strong nerves and cool heads are needed. This enemy must be understood for what it is and wants. This enemy will exploit all weaknesses. They are not good people.

They are not good people.

It's the pols not the peeps.

The Hong Kongers, Singaporean and Taiwanese all behave fine with the right pols.

SoD

Defo time for the Don to put the Grande Posse together though.

A new wall, 20% tariff increasing each year to 100% against China and those who rally to her - gives time for capital to get the fuck out and supply chains to switch. Switch the iThingy manufacturing to India and the Tigers - and maybe the Latinos if they can be persuaded to lay off the puff.

The cold war never really ended. Just a ceasefire to bury the dead and resuscitate the wounded, most of whom switched sides to us.

Time to finish the job.

SoD

SoD, pols not people is a given in any discussion of Communists. The same as it was with the USSR. "The cold war never really ended. Just a ceasefire to bury the dead and resuscitate the wounded, most of whom switched sides to us." A keen observation I have made since 1991. Problem is too many of "us" have switched sides to "them". The allure of communism to the Western Left is baffling. But then it was just as baffling in the 1930s, 40s, 50s etc. Finishing the job to me means wiping out the Western Left first. Our enemy isn't so much "over there" as it is among us. Those "over there" are fully aware too.

Mmm, disagree there Whiters. Labels.

The Chinese gov aren't communists, they're socialists - what's left of them.

For a while they were 100% socialist.
Nearly 100% of GDP went through the state and, surprise, surprise, they were a 100% failure. 60 million murdered through starvation, privation, and bullets in the head.

Note that Marx himself said that this, the first phase of communism called socialism, would be a spectacular failure.

So later, China marketized 60% of the economy. There was a time under Blair where Blighty was more socialist than China, running 45-50% of GDP through the state!

Again, Marx predicted this, the second phase of communism, which took the name communism to distinguish itself from the first phase. "The withering away of the state" he described it as.

Lenin couldn't get past the socialist phase quick enough. He instigated the "New Economic Policy" after only a decade of socialism to return to market supplied goods and services orchestrated by capital, and UBI for the peeps to get what they need. Shame he popped his clogs and left it to Uncle Jo who reverted to institutionalised socialist failure.

So China is heading for the final "withering away of the state" and set to dump the last 40% socialism remaining. And we should give them a helping hand like we did the Ost Bloccers. Be rude not too.

When that's done - the Chinese state withered away - then you could call China communist.

And get over it, but for labels we - the West - are headed the same way!

As we observe the unimaginable failure of our states to organize so much as a piss-up in a brewery, the desirability of the "withering away of the state" heaves into sight from its prior location of "hiding in plain view" for 75 years.

Like a latterday Jimmy Saville hiding in plain view in the BBC, the abuser is outted at last - East and West.

The only West / China end game difference being democracy or not, but if the state has withered away who cares whether it's democratic or not?

Something of nothing is still nothing, so there's nothing to give a shit about either way.

SoD

OK, SoD. I can only explain the divide as I saw it and experienced it long ago and far away. The goals and methods of the communist/socialist state vs the West are far different. It will not be "democracy" or not but liberty or not. We in the West are moving that way because of a centuries old virus--Leftism. I see no point in giving in.

Here's a cracker, how times change.

Plucky little Vietnam gets a grip of C19 and posts some of the best stats in the world. And one of the reasons is its heroic hackers cracked into the Chinese commie health bureaucracy and stole the info needed to get ahead in the coming C19 crisis! Bet the Don wishes US intel did the same for him (cue Bob: it did already ...) ...

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/04/23/vietnam-lifts-lockdown-country-97-million-bordering-china-recorded/

Finally, the country’s prowess on the internet may have also given it an early advantage.

FireEye, a US cybersecurity firm, revealed on Wednesday that state-backed hackers had attempted to break into organisations at the centre of Beijing’s efforts to combat the outbreak.

The hacking group known as APT32 , which cyber security groups believe operates on behalf of the Vietnamese government, had tried to compromise the personal and professional email accounts of staff at China’s Ministry of Emergency Management and the government of Wuhan, the virus epicentre.

“From at least January to April 2020, suspected Vietnamese actors APT32 carried out intrusion campaigns against Chinese targets that Mandiant Threat Intelligence believes was designed to collect intelligence on the Covid-19 crisis,” FireEye said in a statement.

It is not known what information, if anything, hackers were able to glean but it suggests that Vietnam was already aware of a serious emerging problem, and could have obtained valuable early data.

“These attacks speak to the virus being an intelligence priority - everyone is throwing everything they’ve got at it, and APT32 is what Vietnam has,” Ben Read, senior manager for analysis at FireEye’s Mandiant threat intelligence unit, told Reuters.

The Vietnamese government has so far not made any comment.

Add 'em to the Posse! Good grief, never realised there's 95 million of 'em despite Uncle Sam's best efforts with Agent Orange et al!

Hey Whiters, seems "Charlie do surf" after all!

Hehehe!

SoD

SoD, quite a find there! The Gooks can surf though not in the classic sense.

That's very cute, SoD, but as a matter of fact we have hackers too:

"As far back as late November, U.S. intelligence officials were warning that a contagion was sweeping through China’s Wuhan region, changing the patterns of life and business and posing a threat to the population, according to four sources briefed on the secret reporting.

Concerns about what is now known to be the novel coronavirus pandemic were detailed in a November intelligence report by the military's National Center for Medical Intelligence (NCMI), according to two officials familiar with the document’s contents.

The report was the result of analysis of wire and computer intercepts, coupled with satellite images. It raised alarms because an out-of-control disease would pose a serious threat to U.S. forces in Asia -- forces that depend on the NCMI’s work. And it paints a picture of an American government that could have ramped up mitigation and containment efforts far earlier to prepare for a crisis poised to come home."

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/intelligence-report-warned-coronavirus-crisis-early-november-sources/story?id=70031273

The difference is the Vietnamese leadership didn't drop the ball.

November is probably true and maybe earlier. But Viet Nam didn't buy into the WHO down playing the threat from China, we did. Besides, more important matters were in the works here, being the all out attack on the President and, the plotters hoped, his overthrow. Nothing else mattered.

Praise the Lord and pass the Fox News talking points.

Well Bob, you give me ABC detritus and I will stand by "Fox News talking points" any day. Why would the Trump White House set its course by talk from the Intelligence people when it learned early on not to trust the Intelligence people? The WH had been burned enough. Besides, the WHO and CDC were on the case.

Whitewall,

The Republican party should change it's name to "The Always an Excuse party hosted by Alibi Donny".

Bob, you and yours need a mirror.
These are a sample of media stories over a few days:

“Stop Looking on the Bright Side: We’ll Be Screwed By the Pandemic for Years to Come,” John F. Harris, POLITICO.

“Humans Are Too Optimistic to Comprehend the Coronavirus,” Olga Khazan, The Atlantic.

“U.S. Exceptionalism Is Over,” Katrin Bennhold, New York Times.

“We Are Living in a Failed State,” George Packer, The Atlantic.

“Opening up the economy won’t save the economy,” Matthew Yglesias, Vox.

And finally…

“New Seismic Map of North America Reveals a Continent Under Tremendous Stress,” George Dvorsky, Gizmodo.

All negative. All fear. On purpose. Enough!

Alibi Donny is catching the flak now because he is over the target. And a target rich environment it is. The "alibi" is fact. The modelers have been dead wrong all along. Immunologists are now coming forward since enough time has passed with useful info. We have slammed a 23 trillion dollar economy shut because of hysterical media running with worthless models. America can do two things at once. It is time to remove the medical people from the stage and bring in the economic/business people.

The story was originally an ABC exclusive, but it's been picked up by a lot of sources that considered it credible. Search using "american intelligence covid". Here's one example from Forbes, which isn't exactly a hotbed of leftism:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/mattperez/2020/04/08/report-us-intelligence-officials-warned-about-coronavirus-in-wuhan-in-late-november/#7694dc26a1eb

There are also stories about the Pentagon denying the report, so there is some reason for doubt. However, China reported Covid to the WHO in December and that it had been discovered in November. It's hard to believe that hadn't been discovered by US intelligence before then.

I deny having a "side", unless being as well informed as possible from a wide variety of sources is a "side". It's amazing that on the American right there's a nearly universal belief that everything is the result of a political calculation, especially any criticism of Trump. Last night Trump suggested there are studies of injecting disinfectants into people to treat Covid. That goes beyond ignorance into barking mad insanity.

https://ninetymilesfromtyranny.blogspot.com/2020/04/senator-cotton-chinas-actions.html

We Arkies tend to dislike the sorts of deviousity the CCP is.

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