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Sunday, 31 October 2021

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And so it came to pass that SoD declared himself the Fisher King of the Climate Holy Grail ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fisher_King ). Careful of your balls, Son.

But but but Loz!

Stating stuff like “…we should recognise that we are dealing with a coupled nonlinear chaotic system, and therefore that the long-term prediction of future climate states is not possible" runs completely counter to the accepted dogma.

And yes "dogma" being very deliberately used, its definition being:

1. A doctrine or a corpus of doctrines relating to matters such as morality and faith, set forth in an authoritative manner by a religion.

2. A principle or statement of ideas, or a group of such principles or statements, especially when considered to be authoritative or accepted uncritically.

3. A settled opinion; a principle, maxim, or tenet held as being firmly established.

(The clerisy is gonna really be angry with you should you keep to this line of heresy Loz - why you might even find yourself being dragged to the breaking wheel!)

Hey JK! Been quiet - all's well I hope?

I have to say Brexit is a whinge magnet when all is said and done as far as I'm concerned. I can always beg Fluffbun to marry me for the Czech passport and make my getaway.

But the Climate Alarmism thing is effing terrifying. I mean, it's really starting to affect me. Every generation has to live through its out of control power and control issue, whether fake eugenics science in race socialism or fake social science in class socialism, but this one is so pervasive, its potential so destructive, its adherents so self-righteous, it feels like a perfect storm /end of worlds collision is coming.

I'm just going to keep typing until they take me away. The job might go first. If they make the "unconscious bias" training mandatory there's going to be a pre-collision collision, if you know what I mean.

Where do these people come from? Re-animating like an endless shoot 'em up zombie game.

SoD

All's well (for the moment anyway - me and 'She who would have me unquestionably obey' are in the process of moving).

"Where do these people come from?"

For our purposes I'd venture Indiana and Sweden and the "*Biden Administration" mostly just now.

* ("Biden" in quotes owing to there being some uncertainty about whether his egg is still on his biscuit or if "he's" actually a committee pulling "his" strings.)

"Where do these people come from"? A part of 'where' can be found coming from here, closer to you than to me. Takes a bit to read:
https://www.nationalreview.com/2015/06/herbert-marcuse-and-new-intolerance/

No good came from the rectum of this branch of the Frankfurt School.

JK, it's obvious you've never been to Indiana. Except for a few small blue bubbles it's as red as Satan's backside.

The article about Herbert Marcuse poses a really interesting question. Does the girl with green hair in the testosterone ad have one nipple higher than the other?

Sorry Bob, that may have been out of your wheel house. Try this, it's tried and true:
It’s that ol’ Irish Democracy:

More regimes have been brought, piecemeal, to their knees by what was once called ‘Irish Democracy,’ the silent, dogged resistance, withdrawal, and truculence of millions of ordinary people, than by revolutionary vanguards or rioting mobs.

Just keep screwing with them and know that it makes them crazy. Works for all of us no matter where we live.

Whitewall, how many people do you think have even heard of Marcuse, never mind tried to follow his philosophy? While it's true there are certain principles that apply in politics, they have nothing to do with philosophy except among ideologues, and they are nowhere near a majority in our democracy.

One effective technique the ideologues at National Review use to activate followers is to convince them there's always an all-powerful enemy at the gate poised to bring down their social status, finances, and so on.

It's true that apathy can damage democracy, but it's always been thus, and the US is still here. Income inequality, offshoring, general lack of decent education, mis- and disinformation on social media and our broken health care system are greater threats to our society at this point.

Here's an article that defends the importance of political philosophy:

https://www.britannica.com/topic/political-philosophy

It contains this:

"Like all aspects of human experience, political philosophy is conditioned by environment and by the scope and limitations of mind, and the answers given by successive political philosophers to perennial problems reflect the knowledge and the assumptions of their times."

In other words, political philosophy is always shifting in meaning depending on the times and general ability of the populace to understand. This makes it completely relative knowledge, since it's not an expression of any fixed idea that can be falsified like ideas subject to the scientific method.

Note the article mentions aspects of society that can be studied scientifically and that they can be a foundation for philosophy. However, philosophy is only an attempt to link the current state of facts to a story, and facts are constantly improved by science, leaving philosophy shifting sand.

So SoD need not read the link I gave him as a starter to the question 'Where do these people come from'? I'll let him look if he wishes and make up his own mind. Political philosophy has guided Post Modernism and vice versa which has a hand along with destructive aspects of Frankfurt School social theory. In addition, some social and cultural aspects of original Marxism plays a role too. It all adds up to the original question's origin. People middle age and older have heard of Marx and Post Modernism. Political philosophies do shift over time and some are bastardized and brought forward to meet the needs of current contests between those who shall rule and be ruled. It's always 'how'.

You're confusing cause and effect:

"Postmodernism is a broad movement that developed in the mid-to-late 20th century across philosophy, the arts, architecture, and criticism, marking a departure from modernism. The term has been more generally applied to describe a historical era said to follow after modernity and the tendencies of this era."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postmodernism

Postmodernism was a response to changing conditions. It has a philosophical aspect, but is more a marker of social evolution. Marxism is irrelevant, even in China where Marx is officially admired.

But then these 3, PM, Marxist class theory and elements of the aforementioned Frankfurt School gave us a major illness in Western culture today: Critical Theory which first landed in some major Western Unies back in early 1980s, first as Critical Legal Theory. Now we have added 'Race' to the mix and those who need this ideology will 'fill in the blank' with anything their current 'new' ideology demands to wage war against that which opposes this ideology. None of these 3 are irrelevant to the Progressive Left of today. These three are their seed corn and the Progs intend to continue sowing until stopped. Some of us intend for them to reap a bitter harvest.

It only requires people to ask SoD's question 'where do these people come from'? Then add 'why' do they do this to normal people and for what purpose.

My hat is off to you, Whitewall. You're the first person of your political type I've found who seems to realize Critical Race Theory is only taught in law schools and pre-law. However, you once again fail to realize it's a response to a real social problem. Or do you actually believe that race has nothing to do with the way our society is run? And again you seem to believe the whole idea comes from a cabal intent on bringing you down.

The answer to SoD's question is that there will always be people who disagree with him on any subject. There are always people who live in different circumstances and have different sets of personality characteristics and knowledge sets. Welcome, both of you, to planet Earth. Try to enjoy the rest of your stay.

Bob, I read an article the other day that suggested global warming and the extinction of the human race could allow other species we humans have almost driven to extinction could survive and prosper and the forests recover.

Glesga,

That seems like alarmist speculation. There are steps being taken to get to more high-tech energy sources. A few of the recent breakthroughs are better batteries that will finally make electrical vehicles widely practical and better windmills.

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